{"id":8,"date":"2024-08-16T03:10:35","date_gmt":"2024-08-16T03:10:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/5fluoridequestions.nz\/?page_id=8"},"modified":"2024-09-16T05:27:21","modified_gmt":"2024-09-16T05:27:21","slug":"5-questions-for-a-public-fluoride-patient-consultation","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/5fluoridequestions.nz\/","title":{"rendered":"5 Questions for Fluoride Patients"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><em>If you are a willing or unwilling patient receiving medical treatment through a public water fluoridation programme, ask these five evidence-based questions to your doctor, your dentist, and the Ministry of Health.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>1. <strong>What is the risk-benefit analysis comparing the dental benefits with potential harms<\/strong> from bone cancer<sup>1<\/sup>, thyroid disorders<sup>2<\/sup>, and lowered IQ<sup>3<\/sup>? How do you quantify the risks vs the rewards?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>2. <strong>Is there any surveillance in place to monitor cases of fluoride overdose<\/strong>? If not, why not? How many New Zealanders are expected to suffer adverse health effects?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>3. <strong>Why does the Ministry of Health advocate for internal ingestion of fluoride, instead of topical application?<\/strong> Scotland\u2019s Childsmile<sup>4<\/sup> program brings fluoridated toothpaste, toothbrushes, and hands-on oral hygiene instruction into the classroom. Why do you instead advocate for internal ingestion, when topical application is conclusively shown<sup>5<\/sup> to be a superior method of delivering this medical treatment?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>4. <strong>Why are the rates of dental decay so similar in non-fluoridated areas?<\/strong> If fluoridation is &#8216;demonstrably justifiable,&#8217; why does Canterbury (unfluoridated) have similar rates<sup>6,7<\/sup> of dental decay as Auckland (fluoridated)? The Cochrane Collaboration stated<sup>8<\/sup> in 2015, \u201cThere is insufficient information to determine whether initiation of a water fluoridation programme results in a change in disparities in caries across socioeconomic status (SES) levels.\u201d Does the Ministry of Health believe they are wrong?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>5. <strong>Is a decrease of 7 IQ points functionally significant, or not? <\/strong>The original<sup>9<\/sup> Royal Society report in 2014 said, \u201cThe claimed shift of less than <em>one IQ point<\/em>\u201d is not functionally significant, but actually, the data from the Harvard review they cited showed a decrease of 7 IQ points, not one IQ point. When alerted to the discrepancy, the Royal Society report was amended<sup>10<\/sup> to say, \u201cThe claimed shift of less than <em>one standard deviation<\/em>\u201d is not functionally significant. A standard deviation is 15 IQ points. Do you think the demonstrated decrease of 7 IQ points in children who drink fluoridated water is functionally significant, or not?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<p>1 <a href=\"https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/16596294\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/16596294\/<\/a>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>2 <a href=\"https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/38029816\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/38029816\/<\/a>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>3 <a href=\"https:\/\/linktr.ee\/18toxicfluoridestudies\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/linktr.ee\/18toxicfluoridestudies<\/a>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>4 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.childsmile.nhs.scot\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/www.childsmile.nhs.scot\/<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>5 <a href=\"https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/15153698\/\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/15153698\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/15153698\/<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>6 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.health.govt.nz\/nz-health-statistics\/health-statistics-and-data-sets\/oral-health-data-and-stats\/age-5-and-year-8-oral-health-data-community-oral-health-service\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.health.govt.nz\/nz-health-statistics\/health-statistics-and-data-sets\/oral-health-data-and-stats\/age-5-and-year-8-oral-health-data-community-oral-health-service\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/www.health.govt.nz\/nz-health-statistics\/health-statistics-and-data-sets\/oral-health-data-and-stats\/age-5-and-year-8-oral-health-data-community-oral-health-service<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>7 <a href=\"https:\/\/fluoridefree.org.nz\/information\/dental-health\/new-zealand-dental-studies\/\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/fluoridefree.org.nz\/information\/dental-health\/new-zealand-dental-studies\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/fluoridefree.org.nz\/information\/dental-health\/new-zealand-dental-studies\/<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>8 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cochranelibrary.com\/cdsr\/doi\/10.1002\/14651858.CD010856.pub2\/full\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.cochranelibrary.com\/cdsr\/doi\/10.1002\/14651858.CD010856.pub2\/full\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/www.cochranelibrary.com\/cdsr\/doi\/10.1002\/14651858.CD010856.pub2\/full<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>9 <a href=\"https:\/\/fluoridealert.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/nz-august2014.pdf\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/fluoridealert.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/nz-august2014.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/fluoridealert.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/nz-august2014.pdf<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>10 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.royalsociety.org.nz\/assets\/documents\/Health-effects-of-water-fluoridation-Aug-2014-corrected-Jan-2015.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">https:\/\/www.royalsociety.org.nz\/assets\/documents\/Health-effects-of-water-fluoridation-Aug-2014-corrected-Jan-2015.pdf<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><em>These questions have been written by <a href=\"https:\/\/caelanhuntress.com\/?utm_source=5fq\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/caelanhuntress.com\/?utm_source=5fq\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Caelan Huntress,<\/a> who was poisoned by an overdose of fluoride as a child.<\/em> <em>Dr. Diana Sarfati, the Director-General of Health to New Zealand, ordered the Waitaki District to fluoridate their water supply. As an unwilling patient of this forced medication, he publicly challenged her to provide answers to these 5 questions in a recorded Zoom consultation. So far, she has not responded.<\/em> <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Public Fluoride Patient Consultation Request for the Director-General of Health in New Zealand\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/6rpvQKXVkik?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>\u201cThese are reasonable questions. Dr. Sarfati should be able to answer them. Fluoride\u2019s always been controversial. Dr. Sarfati says she wants to inform and educate. Well, it\u2019s time she got started. Her silence is deafening. Our community deserves better.\u201d <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>&#8211; Jim Hopkins, Waitaki District Councillor<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>When asked to provide answers to these 5 questions in an OIA request, this was the Ministry of Health&#8217;s response:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div data-wp-interactive=\"core\/file\" class=\"wp-block-file\"><object data-wp-bind--hidden=\"!state.hasPdfPreview\" hidden class=\"wp-block-file__embed\" data=\"https:\/\/5fluoridequestions.nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/H2024049158-response.pdf\" type=\"application\/pdf\" style=\"width:100%;height:600px\" aria-label=\"Embed of H2024049158 response.\"><\/object><a id=\"wp-block-file--media-d21555e9-6cc2-43f6-967a-021a1d273a47\" href=\"https:\/\/5fluoridequestions.nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/H2024049158-response.pdf\">H2024049158 response<\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/5fluoridequestions.nz\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/09\/H2024049158-response.pdf\" class=\"wp-block-file__button wp-element-button\" download aria-describedby=\"wp-block-file--media-d21555e9-6cc2-43f6-967a-021a1d273a47\">Download<\/a><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>If you are a doctor, a dentist, or a representative of the Ministry of Health, will you answer these 5 questions? <\/p>\n\n\n\t<div id=\"respond\" class=\"comment-respond wp-block-post-comments-form\">\n\t\t<h3 id=\"reply-title\" class=\"comment-reply-title\">Leave a Reply <small><a rel=\"nofollow\" id=\"cancel-comment-reply-link\" href=\"\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fpages%2F8#respond\" style=\"display:none;\">Cancel reply<\/a><\/small><\/h3><form action=\"https:\/\/5fluoridequestions.nz\/wp-comments-post.php\" method=\"post\" id=\"commentform\" class=\"comment-form\"><p class=\"comment-notes\"><span id=\"email-notes\">Your email address will not be published.<\/span> <span class=\"required-field-message\">Required fields are marked <span class=\"required\">*<\/span><\/span><\/p><p class=\"comment-form-comment\"><label for=\"comment\">Comment <span class=\"required\">*<\/span><\/label> <textarea id=\"comment\" name=\"comment\" cols=\"45\" rows=\"8\" maxlength=\"65525\" required><\/textarea><\/p><p class=\"comment-form-author\"><label for=\"author\">Name <span class=\"required\">*<\/span><\/label> <input id=\"author\" name=\"author\" type=\"text\" value=\"\" size=\"30\" maxlength=\"245\" autocomplete=\"name\" required \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"comment-form-email\"><label for=\"email\">Email <span class=\"required\">*<\/span><\/label> <input id=\"email\" name=\"email\" type=\"email\" value=\"\" size=\"30\" maxlength=\"100\" aria-describedby=\"email-notes\" autocomplete=\"email\" required \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"comment-form-url\"><label for=\"url\">Website<\/label> <input id=\"url\" name=\"url\" type=\"url\" value=\"\" size=\"30\" maxlength=\"200\" autocomplete=\"url\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"comment-form-cookies-consent\"><input id=\"wp-comment-cookies-consent\" name=\"wp-comment-cookies-consent\" type=\"checkbox\" value=\"yes\" \/> <label for=\"wp-comment-cookies-consent\">Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment.<\/label><\/p>\n<p class=\"form-submit wp-block-button\"><input name=\"submit\" type=\"submit\" id=\"submit\" class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" value=\"Post Comment\" \/> <input type='hidden' name='comment_post_ID' value='8' id='comment_post_ID' \/>\n<input type='hidden' name='comment_parent' id='comment_parent' value='0' \/>\n<\/p><\/form>\t<\/div><!-- #respond -->\n\t","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If you are a willing or unwilling patient receiving medical treatment through a public water fluoridation programme, ask these five evidence-based questions to your doctor, your dentist, and the Ministry of Health. 1. 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